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Lord Fitz
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Posted - 2008.10.29 09:06:00 -
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I'm still looking at it as currently people that run 2 hulks + hauler will win with 2 hulks + orca, even if the gang links only run part of the time, it needs to haul less often and actually CAN run the gang links.
Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans CCP is a greedy money chewing monster
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.10.29 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Korizan WHen we left 0.0 we kept the same mining op setup
1 EOS links and implant 1 Hauler 2 Hulks
There are just too many advantages to having a dedicated buff ship. The links are always on. Defense or perma tank if need be It can salvage RAT wrecks and collect the loot from them as well.
I have considered replacing the EOS with the Ocra but the problem is the links will shut off and going from 22km (for a normal T1 strip all V with appropriate skills) to 14 can be a real pain if you are mining @ any distance.
Well obviously if you were using the Orca in a 2 hulk + 1 orca setup you would only be using the yield link. It wouldn't be going off very often as it would only need to haul every what 4 jet cans worth ? Is that about 40 minutes ? Not sure.
With 4 it gets trickier, but you would still mine more with 2 orca's and 2 hulks (due to the 15% bonus) than you will likely get from the EOS. The Orca as it stands will easily tank a 0.0 spawn (could be changed). Defense well, you could just as easily do as some people I know and sit a carrier there instead, cap shield transfers certainly stop the odd taranis from popping hulks. Granted these are all more expensive solutions. Since the highest bonus is being used, nothing stops you from having an EOS giving bonuses, and an Orca hauling, giving the better cycle time bonus when it can.
Aside from the fact that you're going to be looking at 450-500m for one for the mid-long term (and much more initially) there's a lot of advantages to using an Orca for even a small op. (skill requirements aside) For larger ops, you can see more than one being used. Potentially you can spread out with one in each belt ;)
Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans CCP is a greedy money chewing monster
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.10.31 02:14:00 -
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I wasn't crunching numbers, actually last time I did hulks were 500m, and bonuses weren't so good. (20mins/can was a reliable figure at that stage).
Still, things aren't getting any harder with all these options out there, it's just harder to work out which one is the best ;)
Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans CCP is a greedy money chewing monster
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